“FACTS”

 

[A Transcript of a 1993 on-line discussion among historians involving what history is and what relationship it has to presumed “facts”.]

 

----------------------------Original message----------------------------

      We saw a press conference, TV and newspaper analysis indicating that Clinton had withdrawn Guinier's name[1].  Since millions of people saw these, and all of this publicly, available evidence points in the same direction, the overwhelmingly probable hypothesis is that Clinton withdrew Guinier's nomination.  Any argument that this is really a conspiracy to cover up her death, or that she is now secretly running the White House using Clinton as a puppet…. would face insurmountable obstacles. There are lots of witnesses around to be interviewed, lots of written documentation and film to invalidate such hypotheses immediately.      Once we move from the very recent and public history of current affairs to a previous generation, several things begin to change.  The quantity of evidence decreases dramatically; the quality of our witnesses generally becomes less certain (because we cannot cross-examine them in person); and therefore hypotheses are not susceptible of the same kind of overwhelming verification.  The corollary:  a number of competing hypotheses will emerge, and often (especially in ancient history) we are unable to decide which one most adequately explains the evidence, or in other words, which one "happened". For example, it used to be a "fact", in my area, that the Dead Sea Scrolls were written by Essenes[2].  Now, it is no longer a fact (i.e., the accepted hypothesis by anyone who counts) because of competing hypotheses.

I said all of this in order to challenge the distinction between fact and interpretation.  In my view all of history is reconstruction. The past is not a "given" (_datum_) but the intellectual creation of those who know the evidence to be explained.  There are no historical facts in the strictest sense of word, but only overwhelmingly probable hypotheses based on a wealth of (usually more contemporary) evidence, which we loosely call facts.  In this view, all history is interpretation, and is therefore conditioned by ordinary moral and other human factors.

--Steve Mason, Humanities, York U.

 

 


----------------------------Response 1--------------------------

Perhaps we've overlooked, in the current volley, the difference between saying that an interpretation (historical or otherwise) is based on FACTS, on the one hand, & saying that it is based on THE FACTS, on the other. There's not much disputing what the former are... At least, not compared to the latter.  There's the rub!  Which facts do I deem relevant?  Which facts matter to me?  Any & every work of interpretation contains explicit or (more usually) implicit acts of selection... Another problem: Of which facts am I even aware?  i.e. there is another kind of selection at work quite apart from the one having to do with personal judgments or prejudices.  I believe that in this process of selection, which is not a flaw or a failing but rather an inescapable aspect of any sort of inquiry, there is always a moral dimension, or to be more precise an ethical one.  Even if it rarely comes out as "Bad King John, good Queen Bess" any longer...  My selection of what is relevant, of what is included within the field of the photograph & within the latter what is in focus, cannot help but be influenced by ethics--my sense of what ought to be.

--Pablo J. Davis

  Department of History

  Franklin & Marshall College (PA)

 

 

----------------------------Response 2---------------------------------

If I cannot make value judgements about a man who I cannot “totally assimilate with", and I cannot possibly "totally assimilate with" any other human being, does this mean I cannot make any value judgements? Carry this to its extreme but logical conclusion. . . . if someone murders my infant daughter . . .  since I can't assimilate with this person I . . . should, therefore, not judge him.

Why is it politically correct to refrain from making moral judgements, or rather, why do we feel it encumbent upon us to release ourselves from this particular responsibility. Is the fact that people have made erroneous or damaging judgements in the past sufficient cause to deny the validity or necessity of this activity?

 

-- Hope A. Greenburg, University of Vermont

 

 

----------------------------Response 3---------------------------

      This jump, from writing history to killing babies, is a little too quick for my head. Hope, why do you assume that those who avoid making value judgements, do so "happily"? Our first function as historians, first in time, is to seek to understand. If we do not first understand, then we only can pre-judge.

      What is the purpose of making moral judgements? In the case offered, the purpose of judging the baby-killer is to prevent the hypothetical him from killing again, to change behavior in the real world. However, once an historical actor is dead, all the judgements in the world cannot change his/her behavior. So, I waste my time and the reader's, when I judge that King John was a bad thing, or that Queen Victoria was a very good thing. I think that Hope Greenberg is mixing up types of moral/ethical judgements here, or perhaps confusing ethical judgements with historical judgements.  

      Why is the reluctance to make ethical judgements itself to be labeled "politically correct" (i.e., insufficiently conservative, in the popular lexicon)? Historians must be very cautioutious about making moral/ethical judgements about the past, remembering that moral/ethical standards are relative, defined by the society of the day. What historians do best is explain why a given society accepts a given moral/ethical standard. 

--Denis Paz Department of History

Clemson University, South Carolina, U.S.A. 



[1] In 1993, early in his Presidency, Bill Clinton nominated attorney Lani Guinier to a high-ranking Federal job. Strong opposition to her nomination arose in wake of revelations that she had written an article suggesting that elections to some representative offices might be decided, not by simple majority of votes cast, but by some system which allowed different weights to different groups of voters, thus insuring that minorities could be represented. Amid the howls of outrage at her nomination, her defenders noted that the article in question hadn’t said what it was alleged to have said, but opponents insisted that, whether it said it directly or not, it meant the same thing. Clinton quickly withdrew her nomination. But was the withdrawal based on the facts of the case, or on some interpretation, and not necessarily a valid one?

[2] Essenes were an ascetic sect of Jews who, around the time of Christ, lived in monastic-like communes in deserts and other remote and forbidding areas in and around Palestine.